tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post5994943970166021492..comments2023-11-03T03:52:37.873-05:00Comments on Cognitive Dissidence: Walkergate: Plea Deal Or Plea Bargain?Somebody DO Something!http://www.blogger.com/profile/08717747685928127724noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-63575830010408465442012-10-11T22:07:39.078-05:002012-10-11T22:07:39.078-05:00There is something that y'all missed about KR&...There is something that y'all missed about KR's plea deal today. And yes, I will be writing about it. capperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08751967312821403092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-52690703218509038912012-10-11T19:13:05.745-05:002012-10-11T19:13:05.745-05:00I predict trouble with the word is again.
What wi...I predict trouble with the word is again.<br /><br />What with the alleged proclivities of Pierick and Russell, who can know whether or not oral sex questions are on the menu again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-25201506862186161432012-10-11T18:36:47.794-05:002012-10-11T18:36:47.794-05:00Nice catch: "... lawyers might reach some agr...Nice catch: "... lawyers might reach some agreement making Walker's appearance unnecessary...."<br /><br />It says "appearance," not testimony. Maybe they depose him in Madison? Would it be on camera, as with Clinton? John Caspernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-85442353579077623562012-10-11T17:53:33.068-05:002012-10-11T17:53:33.068-05:00Bit of an update from MJS. The DA was asked about ...Bit of an update from MJS. The DA was asked about Russell's upcoming trial and said:<br /><br /> "... lawyers might reach some agreement making Walker's appearance unnecessary....<br /><br />Kind of makes you wonder what kind of agreement that would be.<br /><br />You know, here's another thought: Perhaps the DA only put Walker on the witness list as kind of a shot across the bow, hoping that she'd give him up and cop a plea. Instead, the defense called the DA's bluff and subpenaed Walker themselves, with the goal of pinning the whole thing on Walker and getting Rindfleisch off scott free. Now, that may not make sense, but think about it: if Walker testifies and the defense throws him under the bus, the DA loses a conviction and potentially squanders their future case against Walker (as he could appeal that his case would have been unfairly tainted). The DA realizes that he may have now just put two cases in jeopardy and decided to cut KR a sweet in order to keep his future SKW case clean of outside factors. <br /><br />Then again, it could just be that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. A felon is a felon. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-43672891062390090822012-10-11T16:31:30.508-05:002012-10-11T16:31:30.508-05:00Man, I should have proof read that, apparently I c...Man, I should have proof read that, apparently I can't count or add. All that school for nuthin'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-68286037793133945162012-10-11T16:29:32.895-05:002012-10-11T16:29:32.895-05:00KR's sentencing date is set for 19NOV2012. Win...KR's sentencing date is set for 19NOV2012. Wink's is 21NOV2012. Russell's trial is 03DEC2012. <br /><br />I hate to say it, but it appears we may be at the end of the beginning. <br /><br />The full schedule is as follows:<br /><br />Kelly Rindfleisch:<br />11-19-2012 Sentencing Hearing<br /><br />Darlene Wink:<br />11-21-2012 Sentencing Hearing<br /><br />Tim Russell:<br />10-22-2012 Final pre-trial<br />11-02-2012 Motion hearing<br />12-03-2012 Jury trial<br /><br />Brian Pierick:<br />01-24-2013 Jury Status Hearing<br />01-29-2013 Jury Trial<br /><br />Kevin Kavanaugh:<br />10-16-2012 End of trial<br /><br />So, two things:<br /><br />1) Perhaps the DA is waiting to see what Russell will do in his next two hearings prior to delaying Wink's and Rindfleish's sentencing. <br /><br />2) Perhaps just the fact that KR is now a felon and admirted to doing felonious work for SKW, likely at his direction, is evidence enough to charge him or others...<br /><br />4) Maybe Russell is waiting to see how things turn out for Kavanaugh. After all, they are being charged with more/less the same stuff (except that Russell is facing more time and more counts).<br /><br />3) Or, maybe, this is how things wind down. Doesn't make any sense as there is still the digital evidence destruction, the dumpster o' fun, and the bid rigging. Not to mention, if Wink never testified, why did the DA keep drawing her sentencing out? Where's the payoff? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-35818414210004693532012-10-11T16:12:15.447-05:002012-10-11T16:12:15.447-05:00"...demonstrated arguably meritorious claims ..."...demonstrated arguably meritorious claims in a pre-trial context...". <br /><br />The defense made any number to motions for dismissal of evidence in the pre-trial phase that were denied by the Judge, but were at least based on statute or legal precedent and therefore can be argued at the next level. The prosecution has lots of work going forward on other cases and did not want to fart around trying to negotiate a non-appeal agreement when they are confident of being upheld anyway.<br /><br />The have the testimony they wanted, so why be vindictive and why not treat the defense attorneys with courtesy? See, everyone walks away a winner.<br /><br />That's my take.Garethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-79702660550811565242012-10-11T15:57:36.920-05:002012-10-11T15:57:36.920-05:00Landgraf "said, however, that she may be call...Landgraf "said, however, that she may be called as a witness in the criminal trial of another former Walker aide, Timothy Russell. Russell, who also worked for Walker at the county, is accused of embezzling more than $20,000 from veterans. Russell's trial is set for Dec. 3."<br /><br />http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/former-walker-aide-rindfleisch-enters-guilty-plea-to-misconduct-4h76kb5-173761661.htmlJohn Caspernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-21796971468522404732012-10-11T15:19:00.854-05:002012-10-11T15:19:00.854-05:00Things to consider:
1. The first deal required sh...Things to consider:<br /><br />1. The first deal required she implicate others in the John Doe investigation.<br /><br />2. The Defense described the deal as "a lot of a la cartes".<br /><br />3. The Defense also said "It's a complicated, long story...We've agreed conceptually."<br /><br />4. Although the DA first listed Walker as a witness, it was the Defense that subpenaed him (not part of the deal, but a precursor).<br /><br />5. Darlene Wink wasn't on the witness list (again, not part of the deal, but you'd think Wink's presence would have encouraged such a deal)<br /><br />Now, reading the plea deal does not indicate there are any a la cartes, nor does it appear to be anywhere near complicated, long, or worth arguing over (after all, she was facing four felonies, 14 years and potentially >100k restitution/fines). You'd think that she would jump at that. So, what's it mean and how is it a deal for the DA?<br /><br />1) With the Waukesha case mentioned in Wink's deal thrown out, maybe the DA sees Rindfleisch as the end of the road and figures a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. Maybe the other cases just didn't pan out. We may be able to get a hint if Wink's sentencing gets pushed back again or if Rindfleisch's sentencing is sometime late in 2013. Although, with Rindfleisch and Russell having the same judge, he may want to wait until Russell's trial is over before punishing Rindfleisch...<br /><br />2) Could there be an off-the-record deal with Rindfleisch? Maybe Walker wasn't paying her way after all and the Defense really did want him on the stand to blame her misdeeds on him. Perhaps they knew it was going to go down and they were planning to take him with them - one way or another.<br /><br />3) Is this all part of Walker's grand defense plan? Did he give the OK to get subpenaed just so he could litigate it and draw things out and take more time off the clock, but instead got Rindfleisch to plea in order to keep the dirty laundry in the hamper? Does he plan to pardon her and are they still partners in crime?<br /><br />4) Is the DA just trying to wrap things up quickly, get his convictions, and get done with it so the Feds can take over?<br /><br />There is evidence indicating any of these four option are correct (or none of them). As it stands, I've got no clue. I've read every blog post, charge, and plea deal (plus the Rindfleisch logs). I've read the statutes and the case bios.<br /><br />Furthermore, what role do Russell and Wink play in this now? We know they wanted Russell to cop a deal, but he turned it down and that Wink was supposed to testify prior to sentencing. We also know they could charge Russell with child enticement and campaigning on public time, but they haven't. We also know that there are potentially two outstanding cases (destruction of digital evidence and the dumpster o' fun). What of those? These developments only raise more questions.<br /><br />Finally, the most interesting thing from her deal:<br /><br />The state will not deny her request to stay the potential imposition of jail time because Rindfleisch has, "...demonstrated arguably meritorious claims in a pre-trial context...". WTF does that mean?<br /><br />So, this gentle reader would like to know what "arguably meritorious claims" ol' kelly was making. Is she a secret nun? Does she tutor handicapped kids? Was she willing to throw Walker under a bus full of nuns and handicapped kids? Furthermore, "arguably meritorious"? Really? Really? "I bathe old people...but their old serial killers..". I mean, really? WTF?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-81237475789529300842012-10-11T11:12:44.196-05:002012-10-11T11:12:44.196-05:00John Doe investigations are secret. Rindfleisch co...John Doe investigations are secret. Rindfleisch could have given a sworn statement that Walker ordered her to do all these things, and we wouldn't know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-48895285136321023522012-10-11T08:11:47.437-05:002012-10-11T08:11:47.437-05:00Yet we are disappointed because this snail's p...Yet we are disappointed because this snail's pace progress is frustrating. I usually agree that speed kills but a slow death is almost as difficult. We hope for an all out attack soon. Well of course KR was only working for Davis. LOLZbombadil3765https://www.blogger.com/profile/08964633127033203501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-83162230110870994982012-10-11T08:11:13.049-05:002012-10-11T08:11:13.049-05:00While the deal doesn't require further coopera...While the deal doesn't require further cooperation on her part, that is, sentencing is not being withheld pending cooperation, it's important to recognize that she is not immunized from future testimony in the John Doe investigation or in any upcoming trials.<br />In other words the Prosecution got what it wanted up-front.<br /><br />Everyone should remember that Tim Russell is now being represented by a Public Defender. The primary role of these functionaries in the justice system is to cut deals for their clients. How many times have you heard of a Public Defender taking a complicated criminal case to trial and winning an acquital? It doesn't happen because they don't have the resources. <br /><br />I expect the Russell domino to fall sooner rather than later, considering that this very generous deal was given to Rindfleish AFTER her full cooperation. Hint. Hint.<br /><br />Republicans may have been spared the embarrassment of Governor Jail Bait Pleading the Fifth in court just before an election but there will be much more fun to come next year. I suggest that they stock up on Maalox. <br /><br />Garethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-66031264840062421452012-10-11T08:08:44.642-05:002012-10-11T08:08:44.642-05:00I think the most likely thing here is that KR, bei...I think the most likely thing here is that KR, being the loyal republican operative that she is didn't want to testify against Walker (or Davis or whoever John Doe is) but when things came to actual trial with the possibility of prison the bravado and chest thumping gave way to panic and despair.Roxannehttp://www.walkerisjohndoe.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-5227042374888342032012-10-11T07:15:19.907-05:002012-10-11T07:15:19.907-05:00You forget Tim Russell. Walker is listed as a wit...You forget Tim Russell. Walker is listed as a witness in that case and Russell knows more than Rindfleisch. You also forget that Rindfleisch is small potatoes. There are bigger and better to come.capperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08751967312821403092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-83153978207909157292012-10-11T07:13:02.856-05:002012-10-11T07:13:02.856-05:00I don't know, but to me this deal serves the p...I don't know, but to me this deal serves the purpose of having to publicly go through with a trial. Scott Walker was supposed to testify about what happened, but now that this deal was reached, no trial and no Scott Walker testimony.<br />This protects Walker--no damaging info coming out in public from his mouth.<br />Rindfleisch also doesn't have to go through with a public trial, and no testimony will be coming out from her.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-78446920855423050792012-10-11T04:15:25.079-05:002012-10-11T04:15:25.079-05:00re: the idea that K.R. already gave (potentially d...re: the idea that K.R. already gave (potentially damaging) testimony and won't need to testify in the future, and may have helped to slow-cook the Walker Goose - <br />It says she was "thoroughly debriefed". <br />Let's remember that this is Milwaukee we're talking about. When you get "de-briefed" in Milwaukee you're on a public street with your pants down around your ankles and a cop is getting personal with his gloved finger. Wiggy may be right, time will tell what they actually mean by "debriefed" over there. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com