tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post2851762650316663785..comments2023-11-03T03:52:37.873-05:00Comments on Cognitive Dissidence: Abele Wants More Power, Forgets He Can't Do His Job NowSomebody DO Something!http://www.blogger.com/profile/08717747685928127724noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-6000766815245759562013-03-20T07:09:21.839-05:002013-03-20T07:09:21.839-05:00You are obfuscating by niggling at whether it is t...You are obfuscating by niggling at whether it is three, four or five times while dancing around the real question - why didn't Abele look into what he knew was a problem.<br /><br />And yes, Jerome Herr is a fantastic auditor, just as he was when he worked for the Board. Too bad all that money had to be wasted to have him do the same job in a position that duplicated the one he had.capperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08751967312821403092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-88670766477239217102013-03-20T06:41:39.038-05:002013-03-20T06:41:39.038-05:00How is it my obfuscation when it is directly relat...How is it my obfuscation when it is directly related to something you wrote?<br /><br />The Office of the Comptroller will perform an audit. Good. A neutral third party will look at what happened and tell us. And if Abele screwed up we will all know.<br /><br />Good thing we have that office around now, isn't it?<br /><br />That being said, the question about your statement still stands. It looks like you had time to write 3 or 4 new posts but not the time to back up your statement about the cost of a ride tripling. Probably because you know you were wrong about it.<br /><br />That suggests that, as with so many other plainly false statements you make, Abele probably ignored your advice from your conversation because he's realized, like so many others have, that you don't really know what you're talking about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-20182758846884142262013-03-19T09:44:02.488-05:002013-03-19T09:44:02.488-05:00Despite all of your obfuscation, the real question...Despite all of your obfuscation, the real question still remains: Why did Abele fail to look into this problem when he was made aware of it?capperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08751967312821403092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-66463469903167057652013-03-19T07:52:02.105-05:002013-03-19T07:52:02.105-05:00You cut the profit margins of transport companies ...You cut the profit margins of transport companies bilking the tax payer. Privatization pays for the service and adds the profit margin all to the tax payer's bill. When the government performs the service directly that money is spent only for the service and in the long run always ends up screwing the tax payer. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-85776530400828413532013-03-19T07:10:45.422-05:002013-03-19T07:10:45.422-05:00OK, what is the current cost per ride and in what ...OK, what is the current cost per ride and in what year was that cost one-third of the current cost?<br /><br />Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-26521314429934222112013-03-19T07:06:56.677-05:002013-03-19T07:06:56.677-05:00No.
What I am saying is that you complain that t...No. <br /><br />What I am saying is that you complain that the cost of a ride to Medicaid (Family Care in this case) increased. OK, but the fact is had the cost to Family Care not increased, the cost would have increased to the property tax payer.<br /><br />By shifting the cost of the ride taken by the client of Family Care to Family Care, the County reduced the property tax subsidy to Family Care. Family Care receives funding to provide a basket of services to its clients. One of those services is transportation. Paratransit is barred by federal law from denying a ride to a qualifying individual. So, if a private company like Community Care paid only $5.80 for the ride that costs Paratransit (and therefore the property tax payers) $23, then Family Care is receiving a hefty subsidy.<br /><br />Oh and if Family Care picks up more of the cost of the service for which it is driving demand, then several million property tax dollars are now available to use elsewhere for other services. Perhaps in your world unlimited property tax dollars were available to the County and so this was not an issue, but over here in reality that was not the case.<br /><br />So I guess another question for you is what would you have cut at the County instead of charging Family Care for the cost of the service it consumes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-56150494041958824592013-03-18T22:19:50.435-05:002013-03-18T22:19:50.435-05:00Well, first of all, I said over the past several y...Well, first of all, I said over the past <i>several</i> years. You looked at one. Not exactly the same, is it. You're simply moving goal posts and falling flat on your face in the process.capperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08751967312821403092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-22835887820391051822013-03-18T22:18:14.676-05:002013-03-18T22:18:14.676-05:00So you're saying it's OK to take money out...So you're saying it's OK to take money out of the taxpayers right pocket, but not their left. How utterly dishonest and dastardly.capperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08751967312821403092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-59481353478866725782013-03-18T21:40:28.168-05:002013-03-18T21:40:28.168-05:00Abele screws this very simple transaction and he w...Abele screws this very simple transaction and he wants MORE power?!?!? Um. No.LOPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01192046453871221592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-65468879184023551342013-03-18T21:30:52.317-05:002013-03-18T21:30:52.317-05:00Anon 9:07, I am not trying to detract from the hug...Anon 9:07, I am not trying to detract from the huge screw up, I am trying to get to the bottom of the claim that the cost of the paratransit system as more than tripled.<br /><br />If the cost has more than tripled, than it theory the cost of a ride was $Y and now it's 3 X $Y. But if the cost is still $Y, it's just that more of it is being paid out of a different pot, then the claim cannot be accurate, correct?<br /><br />A simple search of the county budget documents shows the price charged to Family Care rose from $10.80 to $15.80 in 2011. That does not suggest the actual cost of the ride rose at all, just that the cost charged to Family Care rose by about 50%.<br /><br />So help me out here...how is Capper's claim about the cost increase accurate?<br /><br />-Anon 8:27 & 8:41Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-49545229141083247752013-03-18T21:20:00.023-05:002013-03-18T21:20:00.023-05:00But wait. The claim was that "the cost of par...But wait. The claim was that "the cost of paratransit more than tripled".<br /><br />I would assume that means the cost of a ride charged by the vendor rise from $X to $3X.<br /><br />If on the other hand the cost charged by the vendor was just paid for out of a different pot, then it would seem to be false to claim the "cost of the ride more than tripled".<br /><br />Further, as I understand it, Family Care organizations purchase rides on paratransit for their clients. Is it not reasonable for the Family Care organization to pay the cost of that ride as part of the service being offered? Paratransit is banned by law from turning down any eligible person who requests a ride, so it makes sense for them to charge the full cost of the service to the agency that is driving usage. Otherwise the property tax payer is subsidizing Family Care (and therefore the State), are they not?<br /><br />Also, a quick search of County budgets shows the rate paid by Family Care organizations rose from $10.80 to $15.80, so even if you're just complaining about the cost to Family Care, it would appear the cost rose 50%, not 300%.<br /><br />So help me out here, how is Capper's claim accurate?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-1848756213706028312013-03-18T21:07:48.640-05:002013-03-18T21:07:48.640-05:00you can't detract from the huge screw up here ...you can't detract from the huge screw up here Keith no matter how you frame it and the taxpayers are on the hook. These dictatorships being created in Wisconsin are destroying our cities and our stateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-47746531549574890532013-03-18T20:41:37.451-05:002013-03-18T20:41:37.451-05:00If they were not billing Medicaid, wouldn't it...If they were not billing Medicaid, wouldn't it then be property tax dollars?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-46170438796154927772013-03-18T20:28:54.842-05:002013-03-18T20:28:54.842-05:00The cost we were billing Medicaid, which is taxpay...The cost we were billing Medicaid, which is taxpayer money.capperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08751967312821403092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-44081606224297011192013-03-18T20:27:10.503-05:002013-03-18T20:27:10.503-05:00"I advised him at that time that one of the f..."I advised him at that time that one of the first things he needed to do as county executive was look at the paratransit system. I told him how the cost of it had more than tripled..."<br /><br />Uhhh...the cost of the paratransit system has not more than tripled.<br /><br />On what do you base this claim?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com