tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post4034203966846447814..comments2023-11-03T03:52:37.873-05:00Comments on Cognitive Dissidence: Walker's Handling Of Healthcare Reform Is Just SickeningSomebody DO Something!http://www.blogger.com/profile/08717747685928127724noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-91388077511225729052012-11-16T09:49:19.638-06:002012-11-16T09:49:19.638-06:00Maybe true, isn't that what OSHA, or WI DWD is...Maybe true, isn't that what OSHA, or WI DWD is there for? To regulate safety in the workplace?<br />Your right, it is possible to hide wealth. But I have found that due to a tax code written by wealthy people, your residence can be the biggest tax break you can get. Whether its from income or capital gains, most wealthy people use it as a shelter. It explains why someone would spend 54 million on an apartment in new york city.Imustberacisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09980736361844115046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-17148451324110628012012-11-16T07:54:09.091-06:002012-11-16T07:54:09.091-06:00And I've seen the conditions that Palermo want...And I've seen the conditions that Palermo wants his workers to work in. Let me know when you're ready to work with electrical equipment while standing in water.<br /><br />BTW, just because he didn't invest as much into his house as you think he should have, doesn't mean he's not rich.capperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08751967312821403092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-73520953884011396152012-11-16T07:07:08.592-06:002012-11-16T07:07:08.592-06:00He made it to third largest in the country. So cal...He made it to third largest in the country. So calling him a bad business man seems silly to me. <br />And Capper, I have met, one of the Palermo sons. Been in his house, believe me, he is not rich.Imustberacisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09980736361844115046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-57259550715874741102012-11-14T07:34:08.072-06:002012-11-14T07:34:08.072-06:00If your only way to make money is to sell volume, ...If your only way to make money is to sell volume, why piss off such a huge percentage of potential customers??? <br /><br />Is he an idiot or just a really really bad businessman? Jeff Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12118335402641807712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-56741635833062460542012-11-14T07:02:52.086-06:002012-11-14T07:02:52.086-06:00And your perception is always spot on, right? Just...And your perception is always spot on, right? Just like when you said the construction/building industry was taking off - a day before the actual numbers showed that WI was second to last.<br /><br />I don't believe that the profit margin is that low or that a few pennies is going to make that much of a difference. Unless the person is that damn greedy.<br /><br />Why not just buy a good fresh pizza, where the owner takes care of his employees and supports the local kids' baseball team?capperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08751967312821403092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-7851822240267091212012-11-14T06:57:01.184-06:002012-11-14T06:57:01.184-06:00That's the point I am trying to make Capper, y...That's the point I am trying to make Capper, you really do feel he makes $2 per pizza right?<br />And thanks for your analysis of good and bad owners/pizza anom. <br />My perception is that the frozen pizza business is a pretty low profit (percentage) industry and selling volume is the only way to make profit, thus the gimmicks and advertising. Thus the negative feedback when uncle Sam wants a bigger cut. But apparently I have it all wrong, so tell me who makes that union made/made in the USA pizza so I can vote with my purchase?Imustberacisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09980736361844115046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-48320998120159504682012-11-14T03:58:16.985-06:002012-11-14T03:58:16.985-06:00Good employers work at enabling their employees to...Good employers work at enabling their employees to raise their standards on a progressive basis, just like those employers work to improve their bottom line and relationships with customers.<br /><br />Bad employers see workers as nothing more than autonomous creatures that turn on the machines and press the buttons, keeping the machines pumping out their low cost products which are continually cheapened through lesser quality materials and low worker wages. These employers could care less about the people on their team, and are more than willing to pocket all the profit; it is all theirs, afterall.<br /><br />Papa Johns is a bad pizza, the commercials need to state "better ingredients" but what are these "better" things?<br /><br />Cheap ingredients, lower cost, flashier packaging with a football player spokesman. <br /><br />Cheap rich guy still keeps flapping like he's something, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-8173632017606845512012-11-13T23:17:43.135-06:002012-11-13T23:17:43.135-06:00You know, I doubt that I would have had such a hol...You know, I doubt that I would have had such a holy hissy fit over 14 cents a pizza where I'm still making at least $2 profit.capperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08751967312821403092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-89086674481001832142012-11-13T16:56:34.003-06:002012-11-13T16:56:34.003-06:00You know Capper...you should start your own pizza ...You know Capper...you should start your own pizza company, with your intimate knowledge of employee relations, your eagerness to pay more taxes, and the disdain you have for the competition, makes you a perfect fit.<br />Then we could answer the question: whether all company owners are just greedy or if you are indeed living in some liberal bubble, surrounded by like minded liberals. Imustberacisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09980736361844115046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-26430982967842215122012-11-12T23:12:43.740-06:002012-11-12T23:12:43.740-06:00OK, correct me if im wrong. If you or a family me...OK, correct me if im wrong. If you or a family member gets seriously ill, you have $4300 in your HSA and another $10,000 in your savings account and your insurance pays 80%. <br /><br />As a cancer survivor myself, let's say I was in your exact situation, I can tell you my bills are approximately about $400,000 or so. 80% covers $320,000 so where is the other $80,000 coming from? Which of course would put you $66,000 in the hole and counting. <br /><br />I am a Christian but I dont see praying away your debt as an option. i also ate well and exercised, but no one told the cancer that I guess. <br /><br />SO where does the $66,000 come from and my cancer (in the realm of cancer) was a fairly tame one in terms of no chemo or radiation. Add that onto your payments, etc... <br /><br />Do you have a plan B or is praying away your debt it?? Jeff Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12118335402641807712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-58486545128739346032012-11-12T22:54:33.415-06:002012-11-12T22:54:33.415-06:00@bombadil
I am still stunned by the rates you say...@bombadil<br /><br />I am still stunned by the rates you say you pay and the deductibles. I pay nearly three times the premium and my deductible is higher. <br /><br />And here I thought us public employees were supposed to have the caddilac insurance.capperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08751967312821403092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-86268034300438631932012-11-12T22:51:30.377-06:002012-11-12T22:51:30.377-06:00JS
We have $4300 in our HSA and ~$10,000 in a dedi...JS<br />We have $4300 in our HSA and ~$10,000 in a dedicated savings account; home equity coverage if it is higher. If it is terrible? We pray. Luckily we are Nazi-like about our health. Food, workouts, etc. <br />My employer has a high-deductible plan that WILL BE deemed substandard because ACA has minimum requirements. In june of 2009 President Obama promised us all that we could keep our current insurance. I hope he keeps his promise.<br />I do support your position, but why can't you let me choose a HDP? The 1%? We pay $82 a month and put another $80 a month into the HSA. Tax break? We have never spent any HSA money in case we need it in the future- not sure how that is even taxed?<br />Didn't see what questions I didn't answer. I apologize. Am not adversarial. Just want my current plan to stay the same.<br />'Paid troll'? A low blow. I apologize if that is what you think. Thank you for your forum. I enjoy the perspective. Good night sir. <br />bombadil3765https://www.blogger.com/profile/08964633127033203501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-48817115290257326312012-11-12T22:10:12.405-06:002012-11-12T22:10:12.405-06:00Bomba, for the last time because now i am thinking...Bomba, for the last time because now i am thinking your just a paid troll since you havent strayed from your original talking point. Notice you never answer any questions, nor stray an inch from your original goal. <br /><br />1. You could not possibly save enough in an HSA to possibly account for something terrible happening to you whatsoever. HSA's are simply a way for the 1% to get even another tax break! Jeff Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12118335402641807712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-62213675547411906842012-11-12T22:06:11.481-06:002012-11-12T22:06:11.481-06:00@bombadil3765
Did Obama take away your insurance ...@bombadil3765<br /><br />Did Obama take away your insurance or did your employer?<br /><br />@IMBAR You mean like the guy from Papa John's who owns a real castle and can give away two million pizzas but can't afford health insurance?<br /><br />Also, for anyone, how is this any worse than paying for the Badgercare insurance for thousands of Walmart employees, Aurora Healthcare employees and all the other companies that won't provide insurance and won't pay their employees enough that they can afford it on their own?capperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08751967312821403092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-88233859857502281352012-11-12T22:01:43.727-06:002012-11-12T22:01:43.727-06:00I sympathize and am saddened. Just want it as an ...I sympathize and am saddened. Just want it as an option for us because it is all we can/want to afford and because Obama promised that we could keep our plan; apparently he was not being truthful? If we could have children we would choose the other plan. And I do understand the choices when they are personal; I lost an older brother and a younger sister. <br />BTW, we save 20% of our extra money into an HSA to cover those deductibles. Don't know why our plan is deemed substandard. It's ok for us. But now we'll have to pay more and not be able to build our HSA (there is an HSA limitation that disallows anyone over age 30 to contribute?). bombadil3765https://www.blogger.com/profile/08964633127033203501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-2270723439709033662012-11-12T20:59:31.693-06:002012-11-12T20:59:31.693-06:0020% of workers choose high deductible plans becaus...20% of workers choose high deductible plans because its all they can afford and/or its all that they think they will need! <br /><br />It covers things at 80%....what about my friends whose 6 year old daughter needed a new heart and they spent 3 months with her in the Hospital? The bill was well over a million dollars, do you have an extra 200,000 + in pocket change laying around? Or are you sure that it will never happen to you? or do you think that people who it does happen to, just draw the bad straw and need to be discarded from society? Jeff Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12118335402641807712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-28851955886723544722012-11-12T18:51:31.867-06:002012-11-12T18:51:31.867-06:00I would support Obamacare IF it would allow high-d...I would support Obamacare IF it would allow high-deductible plans like mine (20 percent of workers choose high-deductible plans). Yes, it covers (at 80%) cancer- up to the horrible death stage-, pregnancy, diabetes, heart attacks...everything. NO taxpayer money required. Again, President Obama promised me I could keep my insurance plan. I just want him to keep his promise. It is OK for us to disagree on details because I support your position on Walker's buffoonery, but not on the elimination of HDH plans and HSA's from my/our health care options.bombadil3765https://www.blogger.com/profile/08964633127033203501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-29276956213367786302012-11-12T17:12:24.147-06:002012-11-12T17:12:24.147-06:00Or you could develop cancer anddie a horrible deat...Or you could develop cancer anddie a horrible death because you cant afford care, those making you suffer and making the taxpayers pay tremendously more for your care than we would have in the first place. <br /><br />O wait that could never happen - http://cognidissidence.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-single-issue-in-this-election.htmlJeff Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12118335402641807712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-52157026197995337532012-11-12T17:09:06.776-06:002012-11-12T17:09:06.776-06:00JS7
I am flattered yet undeserving. "WE"...JS7<br />I am flattered yet undeserving. "WE" is me of course and I don't want to pay more for things that I can't use. The universal requirement for insurance should be limited to catastrophic coverage and general maintenance- most high deductible plans cover physicals, colonoscopys and mammograms, etc. I am happy to save money in my HSA to cover the expenses within my $2000 deductible. If I break a leg the insurance kicks in. At $82 per month I would like to keep the insurance I have. I remind you that President Obama promised me that I could. I don't see that as selfish, just frugal. Again, I would be happy if the Affordable Care Act wouldn't call my plan "substandard", it is all I need.bombadil3765https://www.blogger.com/profile/08964633127033203501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-34353148315920055282012-11-12T17:02:14.339-06:002012-11-12T17:02:14.339-06:00Really? Here in WI? Businesses growing? Don't ...Really? Here in WI? Businesses growing? Don't say that here, you'll be vilified, just as I am.<br />You leave me curious as to what industry your working in. <br />You are still harboring a lot of hate toward millionaires though. I would think you would be in a better mood since your president won. I'm not a golfer, but how exactly do they steal golf balls? then maybe I will understand how they "suck" money from the fed.<br />Imustberacisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09980736361844115046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-59583588048937585952012-11-12T15:34:38.127-06:002012-11-12T15:34:38.127-06:00You know, IMBR talks layoffs like it is epidemic.
...You know, IMBR talks layoffs like it is epidemic.<br /><br />Over here, not far away from you, I see businesses that are growing, several very big building projects well underway in the name of expansion.<br /><br />There are several places hiring I've been tempted to switch over to just to do something different, a higher pay rate possible.<br /><br />IMBR talks doom and gloom because his sector is sucking, and he wants to take everybody else who is working together and independently to task for wanting to strengthen their communities?<br /><br />The Federal government only steps in when States fail to act, willingly or unable as far as I can tell.<br /><br />Of course, Republican Governors still outspend their Democratic counter parts, most of that money sucked out of the Federal government like miserly millionaires who steal golf balls on the golf course.<br /><br />Not because they can't afford the golf balls, but because they can steal them and get away with it.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-91009994130917459582012-11-12T15:22:46.513-06:002012-11-12T15:22:46.513-06:00Hmmmm... A "Sportsmen Against Walker" b...Hmmmm... A "Sportsmen Against Walker" bumpersticker. That would be awesome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-74997140669572454462012-11-12T15:20:35.425-06:002012-11-12T15:20:35.425-06:00Businesses have been eliminating healthcare benefi...Businesses have been eliminating healthcare benefits or shifting from F/T to P/T workers for YEARS in order to not pay healthcare benefits. Don't kid youself. Look no further than Robin Vos's own popcorn company. He even makes Wisconsin taxpayers pay his soon-to-be-ex-wife's healthcare (in Idaho, where she will be able to get Affordable Care Act coverage in 2014). And, finally, look to Vos's "JMR" arrangement with Bill McReynolds. How much money from Premier Solutions is being funneled to Vos from a company that helps Wis Counties rip healthcare benefits from public workers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-45857042952380612602012-11-12T15:15:29.410-06:002012-11-12T15:15:29.410-06:00Bombadil This statement "We don't need ex...Bombadil This statement "We don't need exchanges that force me to pay more for health care that I can't possibly use." <br /><br />could be THE single biggest massive fail statement written on our site since I have been involved here. Either you need to rethink your position and come back with better work, OR you have a psychic gift that is unparallelled in this country and should be working on making a fortune off telling people who will and will not get sick! Jeff Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12118335402641807712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-70641388630463703802012-11-12T14:55:04.696-06:002012-11-12T14:55:04.696-06:00From the very first moment that Walker arrived in ...From the very first moment that Walker arrived in the governors seat I have felt that "in time" he will tip the scales against himself. <br /><br />To me he will eventually succeed in goring enough ox in the state that each group will turn against him.<br /><br />Taking away or denying Wisconsinites health care will move thousands of supporters away from Walker and his cronies. <br /><br />You know those supporter who already have health care. Many including Walker with government provided health care.<br /><br />I'm waiting to see the Sportsmen Against Walker bumper sticker. It will come. <br /><br />Are we really going to get a 5% tax (fee LOL) on gas in Wisconsin? <br /><br />That will put some thumbs on the scale moving closer and closer to the tipping point. The list is growing everyday.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com