tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post5063363778304842769..comments2023-11-03T03:52:37.873-05:00Comments on Cognitive Dissidence: What's Wrong With the WISDEMS? Gordon Hintz! Somebody DO Something!http://www.blogger.com/profile/08717747685928127724noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-52335293751979224242016-04-24T18:46:15.641-05:002016-04-24T18:46:15.641-05:00Jake, there is "playing the game" and th...Jake, there is "playing the game" and then there is just being an A-hole.<br />One represents a different approach to tactics which is another discussion.<br />The latter is self destruction.Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00441922671393869604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-71241740898303352182016-04-24T16:50:41.044-05:002016-04-24T16:50:41.044-05:00I don't disagree with what you're saying B...I don't disagree with what you're saying Bernie, and that it seems far too many Dems are willing to "play ball" rather than fight foe change and improvement.<br /><br /> What I am saying is that Gordon Hintz has done both, and I'm seeing a tendency for people like Jeff to childishly throw everyone overboard that gets one iota out of line in one incident.<br /><br /> I also don't like sellout Dems and we need to strengthen the party from the left, and that the smug consultants need to be diminished if not purged. But that doesn't mean we should get rid of all people who decide to play the game, because many do beliece in the right things, and some even act on them. And going off on a legit progressive like Gordon is childish and not the way to get that change done.Jake formerly of the LPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15660401299391001751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-46528632055357663382016-04-24T14:39:34.260-05:002016-04-24T14:39:34.260-05:00Charles Koch is getting behind Hillary Clinton!
h...Charles Koch is getting behind Hillary Clinton!<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/24/charles-koch-says-he-could-possibly-support-hillary-clinton/<br /><br />Is this a great party or what! You can lay total republican control of Wisconsin directly at the feet of the democratic party of Wisconsin.<br /><br />And now, at a national level, they are preparing to run the Koch candidate!We the People, Dane Countyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16728197356567265252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-55742493819208023342016-04-24T13:16:25.771-05:002016-04-24T13:16:25.771-05:00Jake, I have found that to be a common problem in ...Jake, I have found that to be a common problem in the 6CD and was hit pretty hard myself by 6CD chair Kerry Trask with almost the same verbiage when I took a stand against DINO Jim Brey and his ilk. In private it was much worse having endured a series of long and obscenity filled phone calls explaining why my ridicule of the Act-10 supporting candidate was not the act of a "Team player". Maybe this is a 6CD problem and maybe not but it certainly is a serious one and should not be taken lightly. That is before you consider the other well documented behaviors.<br />Mr. Hintz is pretty lucky he is in a well gerrymandered district isolating Liberals. Of course the down side on that is that Liberals dont like to be insulted and marginalized. This is after all, an era of revolution in which the needlessly arrogant might well lose their heads.Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00441922671393869604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-82022652922732242872016-04-24T12:14:55.509-05:002016-04-24T12:14:55.509-05:00Sorry guys I respect you but I disagree here. How...Sorry guys I respect you but I disagree here. How do we plan on winning anything when we have elected reps so disconnected with the electorate? <br /><br /><br />I wish I didn't have so many complaints with the party but all I see if business's as usual and the same people doing the same things over and over. <br /><br />This election is too important to pass it away to protect the establishment. <br /><br /><br />I think it's very important that hintz apologize for needlessly ripping on so many groups that have nothing to do with the whole process of a guy wants to run. <br /><br />Speaking of right wing talking points how long until they use his comments ripping on the base? Jeff Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12118335402641807712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-46587475893164528142016-04-24T11:06:25.933-05:002016-04-24T11:06:25.933-05:00Everything Jake said. I concur.Everything Jake said. I concur.CJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04833070877059285634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-28793623773310262322016-04-23T21:13:56.613-05:002016-04-23T21:13:56.613-05:00This post is out of bounds. You spend day after da...This post is out of bounds. You spend day after day complaining about the WisDems not going after Walker enough, and that they're too timid, and that they don't stand up for Dem values.<br /><br /> And then you go and rip a guy who stood as strong as anyone while serving on the Joint Finance Committee during this horrendous 2015-17 budget, and someone who gave an amazing speech defending public service and public employees during the Act 10 debate in the Assembly. This is also the same guy who ripped the daylights out of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz on Facebook for associating with payday loan scumbags. <br /><br /> But because Gordon said something you didn't like, you decide to dump a bunch of right-wing talking points and related slant jobs against him in a blog post. Brilliant move, Jeff.<br /><br /> Look, I think Hintz's comment criticizing Anderson for primarying a Dem in a safe seat is out of line, especially when he goes into what seems to be reflexive party-backing and hippie-punching ("Solidarity Singer" and "co-op" smack is really weak sauce). As someone who has met Rep. Hintz personally on a few occasions and is a big fan of the guy, I don't know where those comments came from, I find them very disappointing, and I think it doesn't help the Party or Rep. Hintz's image and future.<br /><br /> But Jeff, you manage to make nearly every post and Facebook comment about how badly the DPW and most incumbents suck and you go out of your way to rip them and never learn to be constructive about it. I'm someone who's hammered the Party and certain insiders at times, but even I find your act tired at this point, you've pretty much gone over the shark at this point. <br /><br />Jeff, I'm not saying you should "clap harder", but I am saying you might want to take it above a high school level. As we all should (Gordon included, by the way)<br />Jake formerly of the LPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15660401299391001751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-80648689564984169272016-04-23T15:21:16.722-05:002016-04-23T15:21:16.722-05:00Maybe Gordon Hintz just needs to find someone to g...Maybe Gordon Hintz just needs to find someone to give him a legal happy ending. Then he'll learn to not be such an uptight prick.Dougie Cyanidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14434390755107583756noreply@blogger.com