Monday, July 23, 2012

Deer Hunting: Commoners Need Not Apply

Over the weekend, I got away for a couple of days and went up north.

While driving around Central Wisconsin, I noted that there were a lot of properties and homes for sale.  And by a lot, I mean that I hadn't seen that many since the housing bubble burst.

Many of the for sale signs promoted their positives, with the most common being "waterfront property."  Normally that's a big seller in Wisconsin, where people, at least those that don't blindly support Scott Walker, appreciate the chance to go fishing and swimming in our clear lakes or go canoeing and intertubing down our rivers.

By far, the saddest signs were the ones that boasted of being "banked-owned."

But there was one signed that spoke volumes:

I know those woods and it is a beautiful area. While it is privately owned, a lot of people do go in there to hunt and go fishing (that part of the river isn't all that far from a DNR fish hatchery and they supposedly keep the river well stocked.  It would be a perfect spot for a cabin, in my humble opinion.  

But sometime in the last month or so, since I was up that way last, they have decided to put the land up for sale.  And not for a cabin or for camping, but as hunting land.

And at $4000 an acre, that's a hefty bit of change.  Not many people can lay out $160,000 just to have a place to hunt.  And if you get a group of people to lay out that kind of cash, they'd either have to be pretty well off or there will be so many people in that area that the deer will be sure to stay clear of that spot.

The only way that this would make sense is if the buyer was planning on recouping his money by charging people, like we were warned about before the recall and like Walker's deer czar was promoting.

It is also worth noting that it only came up for sale after the recall election and after the deer czar's recommendations came out.

I wonder how the Walker supporters will feel when they can't afford to go hunting anymore.


  1. but... but... "Sportsmen for Walker"


    1. Please try to refrain from using "tards" or similar terminology. That's the kind of callous bigotry one would expect from the right.

    2. How is it callous bigotry?

    3. That term, or the full version, is a slur to people with cognitive disability. It's the equivalent of the "n-word" to African Americans or any other denigrating words.

    4. You do realize that of when they catch someone with a CD in utero 92% are aborted right? No one wants a child that stays a child forever. They are a dying breed so why should we feel bad about what we call them?

    5. OK, that was just the most foolish and abhorrent comment ever. I have worked with people with CD and DD issues most of my career. Your statement is so far out of touch with reality that it's not worth further comment.

    6. When I was in school at West High in Madison whenever there was a CD kid in my class I would request a transfer. It lowers the over all quality of education for the regular students. Search your heart, you know this to be true.

    7. North Carolina or South Carolina is where this person against CD conditions should go.

      This poster can join the conservative right in their attempt to restart eugenics programs.

      Besides, with the majority in control, we should all be "PRO LIFE." Right?

      "Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don’t want to know about you. They don’t want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you’re pre-born, you’re fine; if you’re preschool, you’re #$%^&*."

  2. Not to worry, the growth of private hunting lands will be blamed on elitist big government liberals and the socialist DNR.

  3. Sportsmen for Walker is a group that magically appeared back in 2010.

    They were not even on the radar until the Governor's recall race.

    And then all I could see was that their signs were up, I never could identify anyone who belonged to this particular group locally.

    I actually hope Wisconsin pushes far into the privatized hunting zone, I really do.

    You don't know what you got, until it is gone.

    I bet we will see more incidents like what happened with Chai Soua Vang.

    The events are still under dispute, but if you were surrounded by over a dozen armed people in the middle of the woods, it makes one wonder. OR it should make one wonder.

    Classic bullies, and in the northern areas of Wisconsin, Hmong are very much looked down on, much like blacks of the deep south, to this very day for the most part. Think any of those white hunters weren't racist and probably on a few beers?

    Too many victims? Yes, that was really excessive, I'll agree.

    But, if you put this event out on the street in Milwaukee, gave that man a concealed-carry card, he would have a right to defend himself if he deemed he was in danger.

    But, only if the man was white.

    Gotta defend that middle of nowhere woods, someone might be interested in the outdoors and (oh no) come and hunt!!


  5. "....
    Then he ask me again. Did you know you were on a 400 acres of private property dam gook? I said no. I didn’t see any sign post anywhere. He said I don’t care, I don’t have to put a sign on you [expletive] chink. He said, I want your [expletive] license. I said no, I don’t have to get you anything. He said I’m sick of your [expletive] Asian coming to my land. If you all keep coming to my land, I will kick your [expletive] Asian ass.

  6. Not really sure I see the point on this article. You cannot buy a 1 acre lot in Dane Country for less than 90,000 to build a house. 40 acres for 160,000 where I could build, has river frontage and I can hunt. Sounds like a good deal. Many sportsman look north for these opportunities. A few years ago that land would have been 6k an acre. Pretty average throughout the state.
    If people were previously using this land for hunting than they were breaking the law if they did not have permission. What do people not get about private property rights? WI has outstanding public hunting spaces open. I know because I use them. I think this article is really a whole lot about nothing.

    1. Comparing the value of land of Dane County to the value of land in rural Wisconsin is simply a fool's game.

      Actually, unprocessed land is much less expensive than that, at least in that region.

      And what will you do when the public spaces are gone?

    2. When the public spaces are gone, you'll buy or rent.

      So, that poster talking about real estate land flipping might be on to something.

      Didn't Walker have some real estate connections at some point?

  7. While I do not trust anything Walker proposes or does, I do not see this sign as portentous. I read local papers regularly and see land in both Minnesota and Wisconsin advertised as "hunting land for sale." It has been advertised this way for many years--long before Walker invaded Wisconsin.

    1. Especially up north.

      And the new "big game" of Wisconsin will be packs of ravenous Wolves!! And bear, their days are coming, too.

  8. Hunting land is an investment.

    The current public land will no longer be cost-effective to "sustain" hunting.

    Like the real estate market just a few short years ago, hunting land has the potential as huge money maker.

    It is not too uncommon from comparison to the land that is bought and flipped for natural gas fracturing purposes.

    In fact, more money is made from land flipping than the actual gas itself.

    Hunting land, another "investment" for people to buy and flip.
    Buy and flip.
    Buy and flip.


    Awwwww, the bubble broke..........

  9. The minimum acreage for a fenced operation in WI is 80, so at least this plot will not be taking habitat out of circulation to the herd. By the way, anyone want to take a guess how many fenced "canned hunt" farms there are in WI?

    1. There are several that I know of locally, a few different animals.

      It's like that deer czar guy was saying in an interview, it's all about easiness and convenience.

      From what I learned from our "expert" deer czar was that regulations, season dates, and tagging were too hard for the common person to understand without getting a lawyer.

      And then there's no time to take the kids out for hunting, since everybody is working all the time these days.

      So, yeah, "canned hunt" operations are really the way to go.

      It's like pick your own cow to a certain extent.

      But, the Illinois and Minnesotans that come over here and spend their tourist dollars to "hunt," can get a bigger bang for their buck if everything was privatized and "canned."

      It's all about easy these days.

      Heck, why not a drive through live target range that a guy could pick off his deer on the way home from work? Put a skinning operation in the mix and we'll have venison jerky delivered FEDEX a day later!

  10. 636. That number just blew me away!